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October 05, 2009

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Crosbie Fitch

It is possible some technologists are wrong and some aren't. Some technologists may have assumed that privacy was the ability to control the circulation of personally sensitive information (subsequent to disclosure). Others such as myself assume privacy as the protection of the pre-existing physical boundaries that delimit an individual's exclusive space (and that shared with their confidants).

People exert peer pressure to persuade adherence to discretion.

The law protects physical privacy against invasion or violation, and provides remedy.

The law cannot enforce discretion. It protects only privacy. All individuals (even doctors) are naturally at liberty to break the confidence of those who confide in them. However, no individual is at liberty to burgle their neighbour and thus violate their privacy.

The law governs burglary.
Opprobrium governs indiscretion.

There is a difference, and rightly so.
Technologists may help in either respect, but they can't make private what isn't, nor make a matter of discretion what is properly a matter of privacy.

Just as lawyers cannot prevent people sharing files, so technologists cannot prevent people being indiscreet.

Andrea Di Maio

Thanks Bob for your detailed response to my blog post. I do not think we disagree as to the definition of privacy. You are absolutely right, it is a social problem. Where I believe our views differ is about whether and how the boundaries of this problem are moving.

All the examples in the free report you link to in your post refer to how organizations (e.g. a hospital or a bank) or professionals (e.g. a doctor or a lawyer) can deal with privacy. But the boundaries of the problems have changed because individuals (and not in their professional capacity) can unwillingly or inadvertedly "invade" each other privacy.
Being caught in the background of an innocent picture or being tagged in a old school picture are just inches away from being tagged in a more recent picture or be seen by a friend of a friend in Facebook.
The problem is that the boundaries between discretion and indiscretion will become increasingly porous and soon it will be difficult to track back who breached your confidence first, as your private information may be miles away from where it was first collected.
On the other hand, is having the picture of your house indiscreet if this allows a tax agent to figure out that it is three times bigger than what you paid for? Or does having yourself pictured on the background of a scene that witnesses an accident or a crime and that somebody anonimously upoloads on Flickr to provide evidence bother you?

I like Crosbie's analogy with music downloads. The reason why music labels and their lawyers have a hard time is that they are not fighting organizations, they are fighting individual consumers: if a peer-to-peer network breaches the law and how effective it is to pursue each and every one of its members are two different matters.

The same applies to privacy. All your advice about "Activities of an Effective Privacy Program" apply to an enterprise, but not make little sense with a network of peers, such as friends on a social network, that changes all the time (and the platform changes too).
Neither technologists nor lawyers nor analysts will solve the puzzle in time: which is why - as I said - we'd better behave.

Incidentally, you keep referring to monstruous behavior, but I was not implying that at all. Our personal safety, our ability to get services when we get old and suffer from cognitive impairment, as well as our kids' ability to find new ways of solving problems, socializing, building their own future, may depend on accepting that privacy boundaries will blur in ways that we cannot anticipate.

Bob Blakley

Thanks for the response, Andrea.

To say that individuals inadvertently infringing one anothers' privacy represents a shifting of the boundaries is just wrong; the privacy problem consisted entirely of individuals behaving indiscreetly toward one another by accident or on purpose for tens of thousands of years before there were corporations. James Joyce's "The Dead" was all about an indiscreet remark revealing personal information inadvertently, and it's just one of countless examples from literature; Othello is about a series of invented indiscretions.

When you say "the problem is that... soon it will be difficult to track back who breached your confidence first, as your private information may be miles away from where it was first collected", you identify an important problem: private information in today's electronic systems lacks the contextual metadata which would allow us to figure out who created it, who collected it, what the rules regarding its handling are, and so on. The proper response to this issue is not to give up and declare privacy dead - it is (as I noted in my entry) to put the metadata on the private data. We address this issue directly in another freely available paper entitled "A Relationship Layer for the Web - And for Enterprises Too" (http://www.burtongroup.com/Guest/Idps/RelationshipLayerWeb.aspx - this one's got mandatory registration; if you want a copy without registering please email me).

Regarding some of your examples, the right to privacy does not extend to covering up evidence of fraud; if I've misrepresented the size of my house to evade taxation, I shouldn't be relying on privacy to keep me out of the docket. And being in public at the scene of a crime also doesn't seem to me to be a privacy issue - as long as I'm not the victim or the perpetrator I don't see how this is a privacy concern. I like my example better; if I'm at a bar having a martini, and someone takes a picture of that in the "after hours bar context" and then emails it to my company's HR director in the "at work HR context", that's a privacy issue. In that case I'd object if it were done anonymously - I'd want social consequences for that sort of antisocial behavior. And that's part of my point; businesses build the online systems and spaces that make these things possible. If they build systems and spaces that make anonymous antisocial acts easy, we'll have less privacy. If they build systems and spaces which provide trails of accountability for indiscretions and other antisocial behavior, we'll have more privacy.

Where we disagree most violently is at the beginning and end of your post. The WRONG answer is to give up and declare privacy "just an illusion". Once we do that the programmers who create online spaces will give up trying to make those spaces social and privacy-protective. I don't sign on to self-fulfilling prophecies.

And your advice that "we'd better behave" is just abhorrent, at least to me - if it means, as I think you intend it to mean, "never do anything you don't want to see in the New York Times. I will not acquiesce in turning my society into a herd of Stasi collaborators continually on the lookout for excuses to destroy one another.

The interface between the physical world and the electronic world can be thought of as a kind of border. Salman Rushdie in his great Tanner Lecture ("Step Across This Line") described how borders can dehumanize and tyrannize:

"At the frontier we can’t avoid the truth; the comforting layers of the quotidian, which insulate us against the world’s harsher realities, are stripped away, and, wide-eyed in the harsh fluorescent light of the frontier’s windowless halls, we see things as they are. The frontier is the physical proof of the human race’s divided self...

Here is the truth: this line, at which we must stand until we are allowed to walk across and give our papers to be examined by an officer who is entitled to ask us more or less anything. At the frontier our liberty is stripped away—we hope temporarily—and we enter the universe of control. Even the freest of free societies are unfree at the edge, where things and people go out and other people and things come in; where only the right things and people must go in and out. Here, at the edge, we submit to scrutiny, to inspection, to judgment. These people, guarding these lines, must tell us who we are. We must be passive, docile. To be otherwise is to be suspect, and at the frontier to come under suspicion is the worst of all possible crimes.

We stand at what Graham Greene thought of as the dangerous edge of things. This is where we must present ourselves as simple, as obvious: I am coming home. I am on a business trip. I am visiting my girlfriend. In each case, what we mean when we reduce ourselves to these simple statements is, I’m not anything you need to bother about, really I’m not: not the fellow who voted against the government, not the woman who is looking forward to smoking a little dope with her friends tonight, not the person you fear, whose shoe may be about to explode. I am one-dimensional. Truly. I am simple. Let me pass.

Across the frontier the world’s secret truths move unhindered every day. Inspectors doze or pocket dirty money, and the world’s narcotics and armaments, its dangerous ideas, all the contrabandits of the age, the wanted ones, who do have something to declare but do not declare it, slip by; while we, who have nothing much to declare, dress ourselves in nervous declarations of simplicity, openness, loyalty. The declarations of the innocent fill the air, while the others, who are not innocent, pass through the crowded, imperfect borders, or make their crossings where frontiers are hard to police, along deep ravines, down smugglers’ trails, across undefended wastelands, waging their undeclared war."

We are in a time of change, and each of us has to make a choice. You choose to treat privacy as an illusion and just behave. Not me.

Iain Henderson

I agree with the view that solutions to the 'privacy' problem are not to be found in technology. But I don't think 'social' is the only other option; I believe that 'commercial' will also prove an area of privacy solutions. i.e. in the current modus operandi, organisations believe that it is commercially a sensible thing to do to gather, store and use personal data to the full extent the law will allow them. I would contend that this will break down over the next 5 years and that a more commercially sensible solution will be to store less personal data, and be extremely selective about how it is used.

JC

If I understand your logic I should leave my shades up and believe that some social process will work to keep people from peeking into my window. That just doesn't make sense to me. When someone's privacy desires are unknown technology or other tools are ways to express that. Hoping that social norms will protect our privacy is a bit naive. If that works why do we have prisons?

Andrea Di Maio

Thanks Bob, let me explain my examples a bit further.

A picture of a private property is private as far as it may reveal personal details that are covered by relevant data protection laws (e.g. a flag waving on the window suggests my political orientation). In this case I guess you would argue that that picture violates my privacy. However if the fact that somebody posted that picture allows a tax agent to catch me as a tax evader, I assume law enforcement would prevail over data protection: and yet law could be enforced only because somebody took that picture and posted it somewhere.

The other example (the crime scene) is even more intriguing. I may be in the background, walking around with my mistress on a day when I told my wife I was somewhere else: and yet somebody took that picture and posted it somewhere. I guess society would be grateful to whoever posted the picture that evidence of a crime is available, but I would not be equally happy. Should my right to privacy prevail over the rights of society to apply laws?

Coming to your example, if you were an HR professional or a possible client of the martini-contest drinker, wouldn't you like to find out that your colleague or doctor or supplier gets drunk after hours? As an employee is not supposed to post indecent pictures on a web site even when he's at home if he can be directly or indirectly associated to the enterprise (take a look at social media policies in most enterprises) so maybe he is not supposed to get drunk in a bar (which is a public place).

Now, moving from theory to practice, checking LinkedIn or Facebook profiles and activities is becoming a norm in HR. We have clients who are using LinkedIn and not internal systems to figure out their employees' skills and plan accordingly. Social media policies that I see (at least in the public sector, which is my coverage area) do not distinguish any longer between what you are supposed to do while on duty or after hours, from your workplace or at home.

I take your point about the lack of contextual metadata, but I would argue that the rules concerning how to handle information will be difficult to cast in stone. I also agree that "if businesses build systems and spaces which provide trails of accountability for indiscretions and other antisocial behavior, we'll have more privacy". But the problem is that the very definition of what is antisocial is changing.
I read a quite interesting article today (see http://torontolife.com/features/lament-igeneration/) that shows the difference between "cheating" and "collaborating" for two different generations (teachers and students). Just the way of socializing information today is changing very rapidly.
I am quite sure that you and (to some extent) I will still fight for our privacy, but in doing so we will struggle to understand how that is evolving for the next generation. We would never date or break a relationshiop by SMS, nor would we share very private pictures by MMS or IM or Flickr with our friends and their friends. But kids do. Will they care about tracking who posted what and where, or will they just assume they live in a glassbox?

Maybe privacy will be replaced by something like "tolerable or socially acceptable indiscretion".

Tridib Roy Chowdhury

Why do we want privacy? Is it because we are concerned a violation of the same would lead us to some form of hard (legal, physical, financial, personal etc.).

If we agree that to be so, we must then look at the question in the broader social context,along with the personal context that all have commented on so far.

If we do that, then we must be ready to accept the definite possibility of a person vs society context. Now ensuring personal privacy may be deemed essential by the individual, but in whatever social cluster he or she belongs may decide otherwise. So the society/group/cluster may be behaving themselves, but the individual member believes otherwise. The point on the lack of privacy at the "borders" is a good example of the same.

So once you share your "private" information to the outside world, however small or homegenous it is, you are taking a risk, that the society may not honor your privacy. It gets worse when the information is released to a larger and less well-defined group.

So sharing information (i am doing that when I wlak out in public with my mistress) in any world, real or online must come with a statutory warning, and indeed it does. I am inclined to agree with Bob, that we should prevent anonymous posting, access and usage of that information. That at least ensures consistentency with the laws in most societies, where the accused gets to face the accuser.

I think this is where technology can help.

twitter.com/visibleit

I agree Bob, privacy is what happens after the disclosure. People will sell their souls for a free T-shirt or a 10% discount. But what they want is for bad things to not happen after they disclose the information. I elaborate more at: https://www-951.ibm.com/blogs/visible/entry/defining_privacy_management_again

Saqib Ali

Enter "Contextual Integrity".

Last year, Dr. Helen Nissenbaum of NYU gave an excellent lecture at Berkeley about privacy.

Here is how Dr. Nissenbaum described privacy:
"Privacy is not secrecy but rather appropriate flow of information."

Following are some of the notes I took from the lecture.

Socio-technical systems: It is not just the technology that causes privacy issues. It is the technology embedded in the social system. e.g. RFID implanted into humans or RFID enabled passports.

Three classifications of socio-technical system:

1. Tracking and monitoring systems e.g. Web browser cookies.
2. Systems that aggregate and analyze - Choicepoint, Amazon's personalized recommendation system.
3. Systems that broadcast, disperse, distribute, propagate, publicize and disseminate information. - e.g. making court records, which are public, available online. In this case the web is technical system that disseminate the court records.

Controversial vs non-controversial socio-technical systems. Medical devices in use at hospitals are non-controversial and maybe beneficial. However, using information electronic toll collection on freeways to track someone's movement is controversial.

Traditional approaches to privacy:

1. Private / Public duality (dichotomy). This is an oversimplified approach. It may be argued that what is public maybe disseminated by any medium. e.g. Google's street view, license plate recognition is not a privacy breach as both streets and license plates are public in nature. Private / Public dichotomy maybe good in political philosophy, but it is problematic in privacy realm.
2. The measure of respect for privacy is the control of information by the subject. i.e. the subject has control over what gets revealed and what does not.
3. Lobbying for what is constitutes as a privacy breach and what doesn't. Especially problematic if the privacy is considered a preference rather then a moral right.
4. Privacy vs. other values (e.g. security).

These approaches are limited and do not work.

Dr. Nissenbaum's proposed approach: Contextual Integrity. Based on privacy as a human/moral right.

Contextual Integrity is a measure of how closely the flow of personal information conforms to context relative information norms. Contextual integrity is breached when these norms are violated and is respected when these norms are enforced.

Context relative information flow norms: In a context the flow of information (particular attribute) about a subject from a sender to a recipient is governed by a particular transmission principle. Context (circumstance), attributes (information about the subject), actors (subject (information owner), sender and receiver) and transmission principles are the key parameters. All these parameters must be taken into account when performing a analysis of the information flow. Google street map argument fails because it only takes one principle i.e. attributes (streets are public) into account and ignores the other key principle i.e. the context (distributing it over the web and making it widely available).

Fiduciary transmission principle: You trust someone with private information about yourself under the assumption that your private information will be used to benefit you and not harm you.

Privacy is not secrecy but rather appropriate flow of information.

Scoman

Blakley's points are true and quite frankly- obvious. There is no way to ensure "information privacy" when it hits a human interface. You can mitigate, but not control a human, although you can terminate it :). This issue has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with human nature.

Although technology enables the ability to transport said "secrets / private information" faster and make them far more accessible than any other method thus far invented, it has nothing to do with integrity and cannot since information is only useful to humans and not computers. So the gentleman from Gartner is correct in nature; that technology enables secrets to be divulged faster- but he, as Gartner usually does; miss-communicated his key-point.

Secrecy, as it always has and will be, is in "your" hands, and "yours" alone.

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