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April 30, 2009

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Andrew

Not sure I would agree with the Directory and Web Access Management comments. Sun has had Virtual Directory capabilities for several years now (Since Version 6 of its DSEE offering) and its Web Access Manager offering (Access Manager/OpenSSO) has had XACML Request/Response support for some time now.

In my experience the Web Access Management offering from Sun is more complete and easier to install and deploy.

Jeff Johnson

No mention of how Novell's IdM suite will benefit? Customers who were considering Oracle or Sun I believe will look to Novell now with the uncertainty this merger brings. Novell has a much stronger Directory and provisioning engine than either Oracle or Sun.

Deborah Volk

I don't think Oracle needs to choose between two directories. Oracle Internet Directory (OID) is tightly coupled to many Oracle apps (e-Business Suite top among them), it's a requirement if you try to externalize identities or do SSO with these apps. It'll always be there for Oracle-happy customers who like to stuff everything into an Oracle database. (OID uses the database as physical storage layer). Sun's DS can be offered as a choice to customers who prefer a "pure", lightweight directory approach. This would work well for Sun customer base as well as Oracle customers and prospects who came to Oracle for IDM products rather than apps et al.

For my opinion on how the stacks match up, I've done a series of articles on our blog starting at http://tinyurl.com/cnjc6l

gerry gebel

Jeff, we are not focusing on opportunities for other vendors in this post. Ultimately, that choice is up to the customer but we acknowledge that other vendors can attempt to exploit this latest IdM acquisition.

Gerry Gebel

mark diodati

Deborah,
We are in strong agreement with your description of the use cases and features for both directory server products. However, it is hard to imagine Oracle offering and maintaining two directory products due to development, support, and other costs associated with such a choice. For Sun directory customers, it will be important to voice your concerns with Oracle and let them know what your preferred outcome looks like.

Mark Diodati

mark diodati

Andrew,

We reviewed both the Sun virtual directory and Oracle virtual directory products as part of our research of the virtual directory marketplace (Virtual Directories: Valuable Present, Promising Future - client subscription required). The Sun virtual directory lacks many core features as compared to products from Oracle, Symlabs, and Radiant Logic, including:
• Supports only LDAP and relational database management system (RDBMS) repositories (no web services-based, java-based or other identity repositories like RACF, etc)
• No support for many-to-many RDBMS relationships
• No schema discovery
• No caching capabilities
• No graphical interface. It must be administered and configured via a command-line interface.

The Oracle installation process has been relatively simple for a number of years. Sun has made enhancements to its WAM product in recent years to improve installation. They have about the same installation complexity today. “Completeness” is in the eye of the beholder. Burton Group has researched both companies’ WAM products, creating individual research documents for the Oracle and Sun WAM products, as well as a market landscape document. Ultimately, the decision on what product(s) to keep will be based on many factors – not just technical comparisons.

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